Oh I'll hue and cry all right
Dec. 17th, 2003 02:18 pmThanks to
stakebait for the link:
The White House doesn't think pagans help the poor, and other propaganda falsehoods that they saw fit to put up on the White House's website this past Thanksgiving.
A sample:
Colby, from Centralia MO writes:
Do you feel that Pagan faith based groups should be given the same considerations as any other group that seeks aid?
Jim Towey
I haven't run into a pagan faith-based group yet, much less a pagan group that cares for the poor! Once you make it clear to any applicant that public money must go to public purposes and can't be used to promote ideology, the fringe groups lose interest. Helping the poor is tough work and only those with loving hearts seem drawn to it.
And:
Jim, from North Carolina writes:
Why do you not consider your position to be illegal and an infringement on separation of church and state?
Jim Towey
Happy Thanksgiving to you, too! I'm just kidding. You have a right to ask that question. I suggest you read Philip Hamburger's new book on church and state - he makes the case very clearly that the secularist's view of the first amendment is at odds with what our founding fathers intended. There is the establishment clause, but there is also the free exercise clause. Our office was established to help the poor, not further religion.
I have words, I do. But right now I'm A) at work and B) Frothing at the mouth. I'll have to attack this later, but in the meanwhile enjoy the link. Especially if you enjoy things that convince you that yes, indeed, we are living in the Matrix.
ETA: Oh hey, look, you can contact Jim:
Jim Towey, Director
The White House
Washington, DC 20502
(202) 456-6708 (phone)
(202) 456-7019 (fax)
www.fbci.gov
The White House doesn't think pagans help the poor, and other propaganda falsehoods that they saw fit to put up on the White House's website this past Thanksgiving.
A sample:
Colby, from Centralia MO writes:
Do you feel that Pagan faith based groups should be given the same considerations as any other group that seeks aid?
Jim Towey
I haven't run into a pagan faith-based group yet, much less a pagan group that cares for the poor! Once you make it clear to any applicant that public money must go to public purposes and can't be used to promote ideology, the fringe groups lose interest. Helping the poor is tough work and only those with loving hearts seem drawn to it.
And:
Jim, from North Carolina writes:
Why do you not consider your position to be illegal and an infringement on separation of church and state?
Jim Towey
Happy Thanksgiving to you, too! I'm just kidding. You have a right to ask that question. I suggest you read Philip Hamburger's new book on church and state - he makes the case very clearly that the secularist's view of the first amendment is at odds with what our founding fathers intended. There is the establishment clause, but there is also the free exercise clause. Our office was established to help the poor, not further religion.
I have words, I do. But right now I'm A) at work and B) Frothing at the mouth. I'll have to attack this later, but in the meanwhile enjoy the link. Especially if you enjoy things that convince you that yes, indeed, we are living in the Matrix.
ETA: Oh hey, look, you can contact Jim:
Jim Towey, Director
The White House
Washington, DC 20502
(202) 456-6708 (phone)
(202) 456-7019 (fax)
www.fbci.gov